Well. Hello.
I’m the OTHER Greg. Hatcher. The one that is a part-time schoolteacher, sometime cartoonist and fanzine publisher, and — according to Cronin — classic-era comics specialist. Which is a lot nicer than saying “geezer,” I suppose. But Brian is a very diplomatic fellow. He asked me if I’d be interested in doing some writing for this place and I said okay, but I better have some kind of deadline or it wouldn’t get done. We settled on Friday, and so here I am for what I hope will be many Friday afternoons/evenings to come.
I was flattered to be asked to be a part of this endeavor, even if it WAS because Cronin thought they were a little light on codgers. I hope to bring a couple of different perspectives to comics than maybe you’re used to seeing on the net. For one thing, I’ve been reading comics for almost forty years, so I’ve seen a lot of up and down cycles. A lot of people who are bleating about mainstream comics being in some kind of death spiral are too young to remember things like the DC Implosion or the Great Talent Exodus from Marvel in the 70’s, and we lived through those. The nice thing about being a middle-aged curmudgeon is that you have perspective. Think “Batman and Robin” is the worst comic-book movie ever made? Clearly you never saw the 1970’s Captain America TV-movies with Reb Brown … and they made TWO of those for Christ’s sake. Really, compared to the late 70’s, comics — and superheroes in particular — are in GREAT shape.
My gut feeling, having watched comics, and superheroes, and generally just pop culture itself unfolding for the last few decades, is that right now we are in the middle of one of those basic technology changes; the way the music industry changed in some basic ways when it went from vinyl LPs and cassettes to compact discs, or the way television consumption changed when suddenly VCRs and home video became widely available. What we’re seeing right now are some weird growing pains as publishers experiment with format and price and so on and so forth. The thing that I like to remember is that when movies were first getting started (No, damn it, I’m not THAT old — this one I read about) but anyway, when movies were first getting started, back in the early part of the last century … nobody thought of using the technology of the motion picture camera to actually tell a story. People paid admission to movie theaters to watch silent clips of things like a man riding a horse, or two children having a pillow fight; stuff like that. Back then, no one knew what movies WERE yet, they were just putting whatever they could out there and seeing if people would buy it.
I think that’s where mainstream comics are right now. We’re in the middle of a transition as comics publishers figure out how to change from selling monthly serialized magazines to publishing books. I get an interesting perspective on this, watching my 6th and 7th-grade cartooning students. The kids have a wholly different idea of what comics are than I do. For THEM, a “comic book” is a black-and-white paperback from Viz or Tokyopop. They go through the manga like there’s no tomorrow, they haunt Borders and Barnes & Noble prowling for the stuff, and they barely glance at Marvel and DC’s offerings on the shelf next door to the manga display. Too expensive, too inaccessible, and the art looks funny to them.
You know something else? Most of my would-be comics artists in the classes I teach are GIRLS. Don’t tell me “girls don’t like comics.” Girls don’t like SUPERHEROES. At least not the current flavor being offered by Marvel and DC, although I’ve noticed they adore the movie and TV versions. I have several professed Spider-Man fans in my cartooning classes who’ve never actually bought a 32-page Spider-Man comic off the racks. They watch the movies and the cartoons, they read the Masterworks or the Essentials at the library … and one of the girls was overjoyed to discover that she could get Spider-Man comics on a disk for $4.99. (Man, that one makes me feel ANCIENT. Think about it — that’s the kind of thing you’d read about in an old Julius Schwartz comic. “Here on Rann, Adam Strange, we keep our books on this small crystal disk!”)
So, where’s the lesson in all this blathering, Mr. Schoolteacher? Is there one?
Well, yeah. A couple. The first one is simple. Kids still like comics. They probably would even like superhero comics. But we have to go where they are. And they sure-God aren’t going to comic-book stores, especially dank little basement dungeons like the two I visited last week — but that’s a whole ‘nother post’s worth of crabbing.
The second, and this is the one where I think Marvel and DC are FINALLY getting a clue — bulk up, you guys. No kid is going to drop $3 on a 32-page booklet when he can spend twice that and get 200 pages. That’s the REAL lesson of the manga explosion. It’s not that kids want the smaller pages or the round doll-eyed faces. They want the thicker book.
But the most important one is the one I mentioned at the start. This is a transitional period. Things are going to seem weird and unstable for a while. And it reminds me a lot of the 70’s, when Marvel and DC were experimenting with 100-page formats, dollar tabloid specials, partially new and partial-reprint books, and so on. Meanwhile, Star*Reach and Byron Preiss were experimenting with various ‘ground-level’ adult-oriented stuff, Heavy Metal and Epic came into their own, somebody invented the graphic novel … We figured it out then. We’ll figure it out again. The only difference is that back then, we didn’t have message boards on the internet to whip each other into a frenzied panic over it. All you doomsaying “death-spiral” people? Lighten up.
Because to THIS old codger, comics are looking pretty fine. Or anyway, they do once I get out of the habit of looking at them with my geezer expectations of 32-page serialized magazines and embrace the idea that they’re BOOKS now, the way my students have done.
I’ll be talking about more of those books specifically, some new and some old, in future Friday installments. The good ones, anyway. Because like everyone else here, I think Comics Should Be Good, too.
If you made it this far, thanks for reading, and I’ll see you here next Friday.
[Hi, everyone, and welcome to the Greg Hatcher Legacy Files. When Greg died, we mentioned that we would be reposting all his old columns, and here we go. I’ve been trying to figure out a good way to do it and collect them all and whatnot, so it’s taken a bit longer than we wanted, but let’s not worry about that now. What I decided to do is, instead of posting them simply chronologically, to do them thematically. Greg’s columns often had a little bit of this and a little bit of that, but generally, you can break them down into: columns about his classes, comics in the “real world,” Bronze Age comics, current comics, pop culture stuff, personal stuff, and his travels around the Pacific Northwest. So I decided to reprint all the columns about one theme, then another, and so on. It seemed like an interesting way to do it, especially with the stuff about his class or his more personal stuff, because then we can see how his life evolved in a more condensed way. I’m going to start with current comics, because they’re slightly less timeless and less personal, and I’ll lead up to the more personal stuff down the line.
This was Greg’s first column for Comics Should Be Good, back before we were at Comic Book Resources. It was published on 9 December 2005, about a year after the blog debuted. As with me, Greg wasn’t a founder, but when some of Brian’s co-founders decided to leave the blog because … Brian didn’t hate current comics enough? (it’s unclear what happened there), Brian brought in some new blood. Greg had been a moderator on the CBR boards for a while, so Brian was obviously familiar with him, and so he asked Greg to contribute. You can find the original post here. I will link to the original post when I can, because the comments on Greg’s posts were usually pretty interesting (although the old blog, before we went to CBR, has gotten spammed a lot over the years). Obviously, when CBR changed, the original posts were wiped out, but if I can find them on the Wayback Machine, I will.
We hope you enjoy these columns, even if you’ve read them before. As I’ve been organizing them, I’ve been overwhelmed by nostalgia and sadness quite a lot, re-reading some of the great columns Greg wrote and thinking about some of his students, who are now grown-ups, that Greg was writing about when they were still in junior high, and remembering his trips through small towns in Washington and Oregon with Julie. I’ll be posting them every Tuesday and Friday at this time (I’m putting it at 8 o’clock in the morning, but because Arizona doesn’t change to Daylight Savings Time, I’m never quite sure if it will go up at 10 o’clock or 11 o’clock on the East Coast, much less anywhere else in the world), so check back in at those times. We have a lot of columns to get to, people, and it’s going to be a fun trip, I hope. Thanks for reading!]
I wasn’t reading this in 2005, so this is, as NBC used to market their reruns, New To Me. Also, I’m older than Greg was, so I appreciate his POV
I hope you enjoy the columns, sir!
Greg Hatcher was one of the major draws for me on the old CBR boards, and then again when the Junkshop opened. Thanks for sharing these again.
No worries, sir. I hope you have fun revisiting them!
A touch of nostalgia with an added hint of sadness, I’m going to enjoy reading these re-posts.
Thanks for taking the time to do this, it really is appreciated.
The hardest part is organizing them (and I’m not done yet, but I have enough to give myself a nice buffer). Other than that, it’s just making sure I find a bit of time to get them together, which is pretty easy!
Well before I started reading at that site, so this should be interesting.
I’ve read them all, and it’s been interesting, so I hope it is for people who haven’t read them!
I loved Greg H’s posts about his classes, and seeing the pictures of the kids displaying their comics. Thanks for reposting these, Greg B!
Not a problem, sir. It will be a bit before we get to the class posts – I’m “saving” those for a bit – but I do agree they are very keen!
My first e-mail exchange with Greg came from posting some comments on the Old Site, after reading old columns. Brings back some fond memories, tinged with sadness. Kind of been the theme lately. I lost my wife to respiratory issues at the end of November and my aunt lost her husband, earlier in the year. We got together for dinner, after New Years, and shared our own amusement at people who kept asking how we were doing, as well as the things that would pop up to remind us of those we lost.
Greg was a class act, all the way and it will be great to see him live again, via his words.
I’m so sorry to hear that, Jeff. I can’t imagine what you’re going through, and I hope whatever small comfort you can get from us at the blog helps you.
Oh, that sucks. The end of 2022 was bad for a lot of my friends losing parent/partner/kid.
I’m through the worst, which was sitting in a hospital for the better part of a month. It made me think of Greg and Julie and what they had to go through, at the end.
Greg’s columns always made me smile, even when he raged against the stupidity of the anti-vaxers and maskers. We had a lot of the same pop culture/film/literary material in our wheelhouses and I grew up around teachers, so I loved the columns about Greg’s students and their enthusiasm. That’s why the good people teach, despite all the crap stacked against them, from government on down.
Greg volunteered to transport COVID patients, when everyone was looking at the pandemic as The Black Plague. THAT is character. He taught kids to express themselves through their art. He took the horrible stuff from his life and made it a teaching tool and a vehicle to express truths. I’ve got a ton of respect for the man he was and was glad I got to enjoy some of it, via his columns and his guest appearances on Radio vs The Martians.